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Izaja 64:8

7 Pa ipak, naš si otac, o Jahve: mi smo glina, a ti si naš lončar - svi smo mi djelo ruku tvojih.

 וְעַתָּה יְהֹוָה אָבִינוּ אָתָּה אֲנַחְנוּ הַחֹמֶר וְאַתָּה יֹצְרֵנוּ וּמַעֲשֵׂה יָדְךָ כֻּלָּנ

Veatah Jehovah avinu atah, anahnu hahomer veatah joserenu, umaseh jadeha kulanu

8 Ne srdi se, Jahve, odveć žestoko, ne spominji se bez prestanka naše krivice. De pogledaj - ta svi smo mi narod tvoj!

אַל תִּקְצֹף יְהֹוָה עַד מְאֹד וְאַל לָעַד תִּזְכֹּר עָו‍ֹן הֵן הַבֶּט נָא עַמְּךָ כֻלָּנוּ

Al tiksof Jehovah ad meod, veal laAd tizkor avon hen habet na ameha hulanu.

 

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Isaiah 64:8 – The Potter, Father of Israel

But now, Yahweh, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you our potter; and we all are the work of your hand. — Isaiah 64:8 World English.

 

This is one of the scriptures that trinitarians present with the thought that the alleged first person of their alleged trinity is being spoken of in this verse. While it is true that Yahweh is called father in the verse, nevertheless, it is also true that one has imagine, assume and read into this that Yahweh is being called “father” in the trinitarian sense. The trinitarian, who claims that Yahweh is three persons, would have to imagine and assume that Yahweh is being presented here, not as three persons, but as one person, that is, the so-called “first person” of their imagined triune God. Indeed, Yahweh is being presented in this scripture as one person, as he always presented throughout the Bible, and indeed, that one unipersonal God is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is not once presented as more than one person in the Bible.

 

Many presume that Isaiah is speaking of the creation of man; the context, however, shows that he is speaking of Israel as a nation. The molding for that nation is by means of the law covenant; that law covenant, which would have brought life to any who obeyed, only proved that, due to the weakness of sinful flesh, that all men are sinners who cannot justify themselves by keeping that Law. None of Israel were being made alive under the Law Covenant, and certainly Israel as whole did not become a sinless new creation by keeping the Law. Thus, Yahweh is not being spoken of as the Father of Israel in the same sense as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is called the God and Father of Jesus, and the Father of the new creation spoken of in the New Testament. Yahweh was figuratively father to Israel because he formed them, as a potter forms a pot from clay, into nation under the Law Covenant. It is only relative to His creating, figuratively begetting, bringing forth, the children of Israel as a nation under the Law Covenant that Yahweh is being spoken of as father in this verse.

 

There is definitely, however, nothing in the usage of “father” in Isaiah 64:8 that is designating Yahweh as the first person of a assumed triune God. Such a God is never spoken of anywhere in the Bible.

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